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1.3.0 2026-07-29 brev Rådata 517326 arkivdokument Statens museer för världskultur - Östasiatiska museet SMVK-OM Dokument http://kulturarvsdata.se/SMVK-OM/arkivdokument/517326 E1A-4_0597-0598, E1A-4_0597, E1A-4_0598 Evskrift. The Hetionsl Geological Survey of Chine 9 Ping Fe ssu, fest City, Felplng, Cilne 9 Dec. 12930. Prof. J. 6. Andersson, ÖOstesietliska Samlingsrna, Sveavsagen, Stockholm. Peer Prof. inderssoni=- I an in receipt of your letter of the ist. Hov. and I em very gled to Leer thet you reallise cur polnt of view. There ere however several questions of principle wilea have not been mentioned in your ietter. I tbkerefore teke tiis opportunity once more to drawn your attention to tiem so tat your Committee Bay not over li00k these tbilngs whlebk ve consider inportent. Firstly; as editors of tie Palseontologis Sinica ve think thet we have every rigtt to be consulted before bend sbout the pspers that sre to appear in that pubilestlion. If se are not &llowsd to see the msenuscripts, surely we fust at lesst mow the teble of contents. In the pest the neglect on the part of our collengues hes had the unfortunate effects. I need oniy hkere mention a fes exurples., Ås you know we have made a comprehensive prograr for the fFalaeontologla Sinica dlividing 1t into several series sack contelining seversl voluwres. Tre sald progrer was in the hanös of our Swedlsn friends from tie beginning es well as the format of the printing peges etc, But very littie attention has been peid to it. Series C Voluze VI was entitled "Hesozole Vertebretes of China", but Prof. Eisen" 8 pepere "Fossile Sehildkroeten aus China” describes melnir tie Hippserion feune. Ageln the number In brackets printed on the left of the pege mausber was intended to indleste tie muber of the perticuler fesclcle sö as to feclilteste indexirg, but instesd of tre fasclcle number thet of tie voluce vas printed in tte recent voluses tbet ceme frös Sveden. From the polnt of vles of editors suck tniilngs are extremely annövyling, &s sost people will put the blerne not on Prof. Timan, but on up töv editors. Secondlr, Pr. fong as Director of the Gecolo- slcal Survey out of the budget of whick tune cost of printing must be psild bas surely every right to be informed about tlbe annual printing program at leest one year alesd so tet in making up bhls budget he knows exsctly Low much soney he has to set apert för tet purpose. In tie past notiing of the kind has been done and he has been often confronted witn & bill exounting to several thkousenås of ä0llers witnout any notice glven or else & brief letter froc Er. Lagrelius saylng tbhet certsin eanuseript was in his Lands resdy for printing Gemanding an snswer B--SSAONRNN 0572, 9 Bec. 1930, I want to point out that this procedure or rather lack of procedure hage done injury to our Swedish co-workers as well as to oursslvsas. If Prof. Viman, for example, has taken us into his con- fidencs about the amount of material still waiting to be described, the number of monographs still to be issued and the time necessary, our attitude might have been quite different. 1 want to point out that in making the proposals contained in my letter of 25 June it was far from my mind to force our Swedish colleagues to "file up menuseripts". On the contrary it was my esgerness to get more things printed within a given time that I proposed the printing to be done here. Otherwise we might limit our finanelel responsibility to 15,000 & year and leave the busg'ness of printing in Hr. Lagrelius” hands. It may not be too late yet for Prof. filmen to reconsider the matter, If for example he can give us a detailed program the cerrying out of which does not entail impossible finanelal burdens or interminable deleays, why, I for my part will not be adverse to have the whole of his program esrried out in Sweden. Tnirdly, I want to sey frankly that we consider tne Geological Survey has the sole right of publishing the results of studles made of the material galleg ted by you. I cannot but remind you tnat in the letter written by the Swedish Committee to Dr. Fong and myself on the 31 Dec. 1921, it was clearly stated that "as to the way of publishing the selentific results it is fully acknowledged by us that Pr. £ndersson has agreed to that ell the monographs will be published by the Geological Survey of China, Ye accept this as one of the essen< tial points of the agreement." Therefore whilst we cannot förece our Swedish collesgues to write their monographs for us, we will certainly : consider it a violation of the agreement if anything is printed on the material collectså by you without our permission in any publication other than the Palaeontologia Sinica. I repeat what I have sald in my letter to Prof. Halle, namely, we are ready to have the plates printed in Europe. I am making a contract with & professional proof-resadder in the Peking Teader to read sl1l1l our final proofs with the understanding that he under- takes to reprint any peges contalning mistakes overlooked by him. If our colleagues sre resdy to let us have a trial, I think we can satisfy . tnem provided that the manuscript is carefully type-written. Dr. Grabau will be asked to see that the headings ete, are properly arrsnged and uniform snå the paid proofreader will be responsible for the rest. Tne final proof can then be sent to Europe for approval. I understand frov Nr. Lagrelius that there is a paper by P. RR. Lowe of London on ”Struthions Hemeains." Why not let us have it es the first trial? He can easily supervise the printing of the plates in London. Yours sincerely V. EK. Ting. 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Evskrift. The Hetionsl Geological Survey of Chine 9 Ping Fe ssu, fest City, Felplng, Cilne 9 Dec. 12930. Prof. J. 6. Andersson, ÖOstesietliska Samlingsrna, Sveavsagen, Stockholm. Peer Prof. inderssoni=- I an in receipt of your letter of the ist. Hov. and I em very gled to Leer thet you reallise cur polnt of view. There ere however several questions of principle wilea have not been mentioned in your ietter. I tbkerefore teke tiis opportunity once more to drawn your attention to tiem so tat your Committee Bay not over li00k these tbilngs whlebk ve consider inportent. Firstly; as editors of tie Palseontologis Sinica ve think thet we have every rigtt to be consulted before bend sbout the pspers that sre to appear in that pubilestlion. If se are not &llowsd to see the msenuscripts, surely we fust at lesst mow the teble of contents. In the pest the neglect on the part of our collengues hes had the unfortunate effects. I need oniy hkere mention a fes exurples., Ås you know we have made a comprehensive prograr for the fFalaeontologla Sinica dlividing 1t into several series sack contelining seversl voluwres. Tre sald progrer was in the hanös of our Swedlsn friends from tie beginning es well as the format of the printing peges etc, But very littie attention has been peid to it. Series C Voluze VI was entitled "Hesozole Vertebretes of China", but Prof. Eisen" 8 pepere "Fossile Sehildkroeten aus China” describes melnir tie Hippserion feune. Ageln the number In brackets printed on the left of the pege mausber was intended to indleste tie muber of the perticuler fesclcle sö as to feclilteste indexirg, but instesd of tre fasclcle number thet of tie voluce vas printed in tte recent voluses tbet ceme frös Sveden. From the polnt of vles of editors suck tniilngs are extremely annövyling, &s sost people will put the blerne not on Prof. Timan, but on up töv editors. Secondlr, Pr. fong as Director of the Gecolo- slcal Survey out of the budget of whick tune cost of printing must be psild bas surely every right to be informed about tlbe annual printing program at leest one year alesd so tet in making up bhls budget he knows exsctly Low much soney he has to set apert för tet purpose. In tie past notiing of the kind has been done and he has been often confronted witn & bill exounting to several thkousenås of ä0llers witnout any notice glven or else & brief letter froc Er. Lagrelius saylng tbhet certsin eanuseript was in his Lands resdy for printing Gemanding an snswer B--SSAONRNN
0572, 9 Bec. 1930, I want to point out that this procedure or rather lack of procedure hage done injury to our Swedish co-workers as well as to oursslvsas. If Prof. Viman, for example, has taken us into his con- fidencs about the amount of material still waiting to be described, the number of monographs still to be issued and the time necessary, our attitude might have been quite different. 1 want to point out that in making the proposals contained in my letter of 25 June it was far from my mind to force our Swedish colleagues to "file up menuseripts". On the contrary it was my esgerness to get more things printed within a given time that I proposed the printing to be done here. Otherwise we might limit our finanelel responsibility to 15,000 & year and leave the busg'ness of printing in Hr. Lagrelius” hands. It may not be too late yet for Prof. filmen to reconsider the matter, If for example he can give us a detailed program the cerrying out of which does not entail impossible finanelal burdens or interminable deleays, why, I for my part will not be adverse to have the whole of his program esrried out in Sweden. Tnirdly, I want to sey frankly that we consider tne Geological Survey has the sole right of publishing the results of studles made of the material galleg ted by you. I cannot but remind you tnat in the letter written by the Swedish Committee to Dr. Fong and myself on the 31 Dec. 1921, it was clearly stated that "as to the way of publishing the selentific results it is fully acknowledged by us that Pr. £ndersson has agreed to that ell the monographs will be published by the Geological Survey of China, Ye accept this as one of the essen< tial points of the agreement." Therefore whilst we cannot förece our Swedish collesgues to write their monographs for us, we will certainly : consider it a violation of the agreement if anything is printed on the material collectså by you without our permission in any publication other than the Palaeontologia Sinica. I repeat what I have sald in my letter to Prof. Halle, namely, we are ready to have the plates printed in Europe. I am making a contract with & professional proof-resadder in the Peking Teader to read sl1l1l our final proofs with the understanding that he under- takes to reprint any peges contalning mistakes overlooked by him. If our colleagues sre resdy to let us have a trial, I think we can satisfy . tnem provided that the manuscript is carefully type-written. Dr. Grabau will be asked to see that the headings ete, are properly arrsnged and uniform snå the paid proofreader will be responsible for the rest. Tne final proof can then be sent to Europe for approval. I understand frov Nr. Lagrelius that there is a paper by P. RR. Lowe of London on ”Struthions Hemeains." Why not let us have it es the first trial? He can easily supervise the printing of the plates in London. Yours sincerely V. EK. Ting.
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