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1.3.0 2026-08-26 brev Rådata 518462 arkivdokument Statens museer för världskultur - Östasiatiska museet SMVK-OM Dokument http://kulturarvsdata.se/SMVK-OM/arkivdokument/518462 E1A-6_0117-0119, E1A-6_0119, E1A-6_0117, E1A-6_0118 OJ . THE NATIONAL GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF CHINA 9 PING MA SSU, WEST CITY, PEIPING, CHINA SR 9 Dec. 1930, etc. are properly arranged and uniform and the paid proof- reader will be responsible for the rest, The final proof can then be sent to Europe for approval. I understand from Mr. Lagrelius that there is a paper by P. R. Lowe of London on ”Struthions Remains." Why not let us have it as the first trial? He can easily supervise the printing of the plates in London. Yours sincerely, — ( V. K. Ting. ) OM? THE NATIONAL GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF CHINA 9 PING MA SSU, WEST CITY, PEIPING, CHINA SSR SA ö 9 Dec. 1930. Prof. J, G. Andersson, Ostasiatiska Samlingarna, Sveavagen, Stockholm, Dear Prof. Andersson:- I am in receipt of your letter of the 2lst. Nov. and I am very glad to hear that you realise our point of view. There are however several questions of principle which have not beer mentioned in your letter, I therefore take this opportunity once more to drawn your attention to them so that your Committee may not over look these things which we consider important.. Firstly as editors of the Palaeontologia Sinica we think that we have every right to be consulted before hand about the papers that are to appear in that publication. If we are not allowed to see the manuscripts, surely we must at least know the table of contents. In the past the neglect on the part of our colleagues has had the most unfortunate effects. I need only here mention a few examples. As you know we have made a comprehensive program for the Palaeontologia Sinica dividing it into several series each conteining several volumes. The said progrem was in the hands of our Swedish friends from the beginning as well as the format of the printing pages etc. But very little attention has been paid to it. Series C Volume VI was entitled "Mesozoic Vertebrates of China", but Prof. Wiman's papers "Fossile Schildkroeten aus China" describes mainly the Hipparion faunal Again the number in brackets printed on the left of the page number was intended to indicate the number of the particular fascicle so as to facilitate indexing, but instead of the fascicle number that of the volune was printed in the recent volumes that came from Sweden. From the point of view of editors such things are extremely annoying, as most people will put the blame not on Prof. Wiman, but on us the editors. Secondly, Dr. Wong as Director of ihe Geolo- gical Survey out of the budget of which the cost of printing must be paid has surely every right to be informed about the annual print- ind program at least one year ahead so that in making up his budget he knows exactly how much money he has to set apart för that purpose, In the past nothing of the kind has been done and he has been often confronted with a bill amounting to several thousands of dollars without any notice given or else a brief letter from Mr. Lagrelius saying that certein manuscript was in his hands ready for printing demanding an answer by telegram., oN8 THE NATIONAL GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF CHINA 9 PING MA SSU, WEST CITY, PEIPING, CHINA RR RNE 9 Dec. 1930. = I want to point out that this procedure or rather lack of procedure has done injury to our Swedish co-workers as well as to ourselves. If Prof. Wwiman, for example, has taken us into his confidence about the amount of material still wait- ing to be described, the number of monographs still to be issued and the time necessary, our attitude might have been quite different, I want to point out that in making the proposals contained in my letter of 25 June it was far from my mind to force our Swedish colleagues to "file up manuscripts". On the con- trary it was my eagerness to get more things printed within a given time that I proposed the printing to be done here. Other- wise we might limit our financial responsibility to $5,000 a year and leave the business of printing in Mr. Lagrelius' hands. It may not be too late yet for Prof. Wiman to reconsider the matter. If for example he can give us a detailed program the carrying out of which does not entail impossible financial burdens or interminable deleys, why, I for my part will not be adverse to have the whole of his program carried out in Sweden. Thirdly, I want to say frankly that we consider the Geological Survey has the sole right of publishing the results of studies made of the material collected by you. I cannot but remind you that in the letter written by the Swedish Committee to Dr. Wong and myself on the 31 Dec. 1924, it was clearly stated that "as to the way of publishing the scientific results it is fully acknowledged by us that Dr. Andersson has agreed to that all the monographs will be published by the Geological Survey of China. We accept this as one of the essential points of the agree- ment." Therefore whilst we cannot force our Swedish colleagues to write their monogrephs for us, we will certainly consider it a violation of the agreement if anything is printed on the material collected by you without our permission in any publication other than the Palaeontologia Sinica, I repeat what I have said in my letter to Prof. Halle, namely, we are ready to have the plates printed in Europe. I am making a& contract with a professional proof-readder in the Peking Leader to read all our final proofs with the understanding that he undertakes to reprint any pages containing mistakes overlooked by him, If our colleagues are ready to let us have a trial, I think we can satisfy them provided that the manuscript is carefully type-written. Dr. Grabau will be asked to see that the headings Tillverkad Ding Wenjiang (V. K. Ting) 1930-12-09, 1932 Mottagen Andersson, Johan Gunnar image/jpeg https://collections.smvk.se/carlotta-om/web/image/tn/10148319/E1A-6_0117.jpg https://collections.smvk.se/carlotta-om/web/image/zoom/10148318/E1A-6_0117.jpg http://kulturarvsdata.se/resurser/License#cc0 Ding Wenjiang (V. K. Ting) Utgången upphovsrätt image/jpeg https://collections.smvk.se/carlotta-om/web/image/tn/10148323/E1A-6_0118.jpg https://collections.smvk.se/carlotta-om/web/image/zoom/10148322/E1A-6_0118.jpg http://kulturarvsdata.se/resurser/License#cc0 Ding Wenjiang (V. K. 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OJ . THE NATIONAL GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF CHINA 9 PING MA SSU, WEST CITY, PEIPING, CHINA SR 9 Dec. 1930, etc. are properly arranged and uniform and the paid proof- reader will be responsible for the rest, The final proof can then be sent to Europe for approval. I understand from Mr. Lagrelius that there is a paper by P. R. Lowe of London on ”Struthions Remains." Why not let us have it as the first trial? He can easily supervise the printing of the plates in London. Yours sincerely, — ( V. K. Ting. )
OM? THE NATIONAL GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF CHINA 9 PING MA SSU, WEST CITY, PEIPING, CHINA SSR SA ö 9 Dec. 1930. Prof. J, G. Andersson, Ostasiatiska Samlingarna, Sveavagen, Stockholm, Dear Prof. Andersson:- I am in receipt of your letter of the 2lst. Nov. and I am very glad to hear that you realise our point of view. There are however several questions of principle which have not beer mentioned in your letter, I therefore take this opportunity once more to drawn your attention to them so that your Committee may not over look these things which we consider important.. Firstly as editors of the Palaeontologia Sinica we think that we have every right to be consulted before hand about the papers that are to appear in that publication. If we are not allowed to see the manuscripts, surely we must at least know the table of contents. In the past the neglect on the part of our colleagues has had the most unfortunate effects. I need only here mention a few examples. As you know we have made a comprehensive program for the Palaeontologia Sinica dividing it into several series each conteining several volumes. The said progrem was in the hands of our Swedish friends from the beginning as well as the format of the printing pages etc. But very little attention has been paid to it. Series C Volume VI was entitled "Mesozoic Vertebrates of China", but Prof. Wiman's papers "Fossile Schildkroeten aus China" describes mainly the Hipparion faunal Again the number in brackets printed on the left of the page number was intended to indicate the number of the particular fascicle so as to facilitate indexing, but instead of the fascicle number that of the volune was printed in the recent volumes that came from Sweden. From the point of view of editors such things are extremely annoying, as most people will put the blame not on Prof. Wiman, but on us the editors. Secondly, Dr. Wong as Director of ihe Geolo- gical Survey out of the budget of which the cost of printing must be paid has surely every right to be informed about the annual print- ind program at least one year ahead so that in making up his budget he knows exactly how much money he has to set apart för that purpose, In the past nothing of the kind has been done and he has been often confronted with a bill amounting to several thousands of dollars without any notice given or else a brief letter from Mr. Lagrelius saying that certein manuscript was in his hands ready for printing demanding an answer by telegram.
oN8 THE NATIONAL GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF CHINA 9 PING MA SSU, WEST CITY, PEIPING, CHINA RR RNE 9 Dec. 1930. = I want to point out that this procedure or rather lack of procedure has done injury to our Swedish co-workers as well as to ourselves. If Prof. Wwiman, for example, has taken us into his confidence about the amount of material still wait- ing to be described, the number of monographs still to be issued and the time necessary, our attitude might have been quite different, I want to point out that in making the proposals contained in my letter of 25 June it was far from my mind to force our Swedish colleagues to "file up manuscripts". On the con- trary it was my eagerness to get more things printed within a given time that I proposed the printing to be done here. Other- wise we might limit our financial responsibility to $5,000 a year and leave the business of printing in Mr. Lagrelius' hands. It may not be too late yet for Prof. Wiman to reconsider the matter. If for example he can give us a detailed program the carrying out of which does not entail impossible financial burdens or interminable deleys, why, I for my part will not be adverse to have the whole of his program carried out in Sweden. Thirdly, I want to say frankly that we consider the Geological Survey has the sole right of publishing the results of studies made of the material collected by you. I cannot but remind you that in the letter written by the Swedish Committee to Dr. Wong and myself on the 31 Dec. 1924, it was clearly stated that "as to the way of publishing the scientific results it is fully acknowledged by us that Dr. Andersson has agreed to that all the monographs will be published by the Geological Survey of China. We accept this as one of the essential points of the agree- ment." Therefore whilst we cannot force our Swedish colleagues to write their monogrephs for us, we will certainly consider it a violation of the agreement if anything is printed on the material collected by you without our permission in any publication other than the Palaeontologia Sinica, I repeat what I have said in my letter to Prof. Halle, namely, we are ready to have the plates printed in Europe. I am making a& contract with a professional proof-readder in the Peking Leader to read all our final proofs with the understanding that he undertakes to reprint any pages containing mistakes overlooked by him, If our colleagues are ready to let us have a trial, I think we can satisfy them provided that the manuscript is carefully type-written. Dr. Grabau will be asked to see that the headings
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Ding Wenjiang (V. K. Ting)
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Andersson, Johan Gunnar
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